User talk:Udepub

Sandbox
Correct link (Help:Main_page#Where_we_need_help)

Broken link - capitalization difference; scrolls to top of page (Help:Main_page#Where_we_need_help)

Broken link - none existent subsection; scrolls to top of page (Help:Main_page#XYZ)

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Your changes to TVshows files refuse to be added.
Isn't the fourth reason you added as shows refuse to be added - the difference and definition between Aired order and DVD order setting in scraper? I think it is.--uNiversal 11:47, 11 April 2013 (EDT)

I think it's more about region differences. I just added Futurama. Aired and DVD order is the same at TTVDB. Though my DVD boxset differ quite a lot from the site. Season 1 has 13 episodes, TTVDB has 9 and so on. --udepub 12:09, 11 April 2013 (EDT)


 * Then say that, TVDB has always been quirky that way (tm), Yes according to futurama website it does have 13 eps for season 1 http://www.comedycentral.com/episodes/70pli7/futurama-fry-and-the-slurm-factory-season-1-ep-113 perhaps you want to point to that website and post at tvdb forums this fact, and reconsider your wording on xbmc wiki so its not misleading.
 * However even IMDB has 9 episodes for season 1 and so does http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Season_1_%28broadcast%29, also every other website that has anything futuramic episodic is like tvdb says. still hardly a scraper issue when its a generally accepted format on other online databases.--uNiversal 13:30, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
 * I've removed some of the negative words about scrapers. I think at least something should be there about this as it's not really easy to understand why just some of the episodes get scraped. --udepub 17:54, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Yes I agree the information should be there, warning people that what is on online databases is not necessarily the order they expect and perhaps point to some workaround. with a couple examples If you have any good creative around this please feel free to document the fix..--uNiversal 17:57, 11 April 2013 (EDT)

How to name filenames in text (e.g. *.xml, .xml, xml or XML file)?
There doesn't seem to be any consistent rule. E.g. I've seen "*.xml file" and ".xml file". I like XML file better.

How about the XBMC log file?

E.g. I've seen "xbmc.log file", "xbmc log file" Maybe in this case one of the two would be better than "XBMC log file". I guess the first one?


 * It depends on the context. Basically, which ever is easier for the user to understand for that situation. For example, in a step-by-step section, I like to make things sound very literal and will use less formal names, or in a way that makes it easier for someone to find what they need. So there I will often say "get the XBMC.log file" because the file is actually called XBMC.log. While in some other place that's just giving general information, saying "XBMC's log file" is fine too.


 * One tricky part with XML files is that we talk about files that end in .xml, as well as files that end in other extensions, but are still considered XML files (such as NFO files).


 * Another example is saying XBMC v12 vs saying Frodo. Sometimes I will even combine the two, so that it makes sense for people who've gotten information from multiple sources, or heard someone use one or the other terms. Saying just v12 is a bit easier to understand, because you know it's a version number, but it could also be confusing because we often talk about version numbers of add-ons, other apps, etc. When you say "Frodo" people know you're talking about XBMC, but new users might not know that. It can be tricky.


 * So I would just take it on a case by case basis. If on one page or section, one way would be easier for the user to understand, but isn't the formal name, then I would go with what is easier to understand. If it's a more general page, then going with the more formal name would probably be good. As long as users/readers understand it, that's the important part. -- Ned Scott 09:55, 14 April 2013 (EDT)

Mos Capitalization...
Beware as changing from  To   breaks all the links to that particular section from other pages that link there.--uNiversal 17:06, 19 April 2013 (EDT)


 * I wouldn't worry too much about breaking links to headers. I think the bot has a script that can fix those. -- Ned Scott 23:52, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
 * I guess the script only fix capitalization links? If there's one. :) Udepub 04:08, 20 April 2013 (EDT)


 * Do Wikis really make a difference between that? I thought  to   would only matter. Though I think I've done such changes to section heading a couple times without checking links. I'll check later today. Udepub 03:57, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Ok, I just tried and it's a difference. Udepub 04:05, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Isn't there a built-in special page for broken links? Be it capitalization differences or completely broken links. Udepub 04:22, 20 April 2013 (EDT)


 * idk if theres a page maybe Special:SpecialPages but what @Ned Scott says about the bot, doesn't work exactly (I've been down this road with some edits I had to revert, so when we change From  To   it will break any links to there. As you put in sandbox it does is show top of page.
 * I suppose ideally this magic bot would do the fixing but it doesn't, perhaps @Ned will know how to fix it or otherwise its double work..--uNiversal 09:37, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
 * I went through my edits and didn't find any broken links. What links here is less helpful than I thought it'd be. You'll have to open one of them and then search for every title (or part of) used at e.g Profiles.

About header changes at Add-ons
I know I've changed a few of the headers, possibly breaking links. I'll check for broken links when I'm done with the whole page.


 * I suppose ;)... Do you plan to address the missing (addon Rollback section 4) content there while your at it?
 * Yeah, of course. Udepub 07:10, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Though I don't think I'll ever again change a heading. I gotta go through 30+ pages. Sigh. Udepub 07:16, 27 April 2013 (EDT)


 * Yes the Ned bot doesnt actually fix these things automatically, heading and section headers are a pita to change, unless you make a redirect. --uNiversal 07:41, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Not automatically. I manually run the scripts. -- Ned Scott 10:19, 27 April 2013 (EDT)

Things to keep in mind
Idk what your plans are while your going about your edits, XBMC v13 is introducing a few changes which normally I would make some provisional documentation markup noting things like that, see for e.g. Movie_sets (which Ned improved on almost immediately after adding it.) and obviously needs documenting properly (at some stage) and updating current page screenshots and layout etc. The point is, wherever possible we should make this sort of addition so as to make reference and new documentation gets added sometime later when these features/changes are more settled.

Personally I want to finish up WIP what I have on my User:UNiversal and add it to wiki, after that Ill make some sort of plan which would be great to coordinate with other wiki ppl like yourself. looking at what Ned has on his user page is also a good idea (making note to self). Ive edited a few hundred pages just to correct typos in one go. (cleanup sections) and already patrolled all (incomplete sections to get a sesne what needs doing. Some things I dont use and not familiar with will be harder.
 * I just saw the Add-ons being a popular page but still looking a bit outdated and such. I was sticking to cleanup pages but just spellchecking/grammar/rewording isn't that fun, and I can't really correct/find errors in most pages e.g. about coding/file structure. Udepub 07:24, 27 April 2013 (EDT)

Feel free to add any comments on my User_talk:UNiversal as I will get notifications of.

Great work btw :D --uNiversal 07:07, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Thanks. Learning quite a bit about XBMC while editing. Udepub 07:44, 27 April 2013 (EDT)